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63-0119 |
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The Discography entry (p. 671) is revised as follows: |
| Add to the body of session 63-0119, a. to f. (not warm-up p, b): 1 |
| Add to session 63-0119 following the Session Note: Issue Data |
| Add to session 63-0119, Issue Data: |
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1 CD PaytonPlaceRecords (Eu) 28635788 (John Coltrane Quartet/Pennsylvania Concert 1963) |
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Release Details:
a. "Bye Bye Blackbird" (complete 25:22) (warm-up p, b missing)
b. "The Inchworm" (complete 10:23) (stage directions by Coltrane 0:02 missing)
c. "Everytime We Say Goodbye" (complete 5:18)
d. "Mr. P. C." (incomplete 6:15)(doesn't fade out but cut at the beginning of b-solo plus dubbed applause)
e. "I Want to Talk About You" (incomplete 9:06)
f. "My Favorite Things" (incomplete 13:49) (the theme is dubbed 0:12 before the cut; dubbed applause probably from a different concert)
(7/17/13 WS)
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| 63-0223 |
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The Discography entry (p. 673) is revised as follows: |
| Partial or complete reissues of
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Cool Jazz (J) 236
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63-0223b.
| CORRECTION |
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[b.]: add '*2' to '*1' (additional track note) |
*2 Nat Birchall, a soprano and tenor saxophonist who lists home as "...the hills of North West UK", has suggested that two of Coltrane's compositions are actually one and the same. He writes:
I especially value the book so that I can put some dates/locations to
some of the live sessions I've collected over the years, your listing
of all issues/reissues is quite a work in itself. In trying to identify
some of these dates I've come across a couple of things, firstly page
672, 63-0223, b. "Untitled Original" is actually "Transition", the
first few ascending notes are not exactly the same as the studio
version but it's unquestionably the same tune.
Our review indicates however that while the similarities are striking, these remain two closely related but distinct compositions. The common link between the two is in the melodic material. Both melodies start around the same pitch and have a similar shape to them. They also share a certain angularity in how some of the intervals are emphasized. But even here there are some differences. 63-0223b starts on a concert D flat (reflecting the underlying augmented scale) where “Transition” (65-0610d) begins on a C and does not have a D flat in it.
As suggested, the harmonic underpinnings of the two compositions are different. 63-0223b is largely an exploration of a Db augmented major seventh chord, although a few notes in the melody don't belong to that tonal area. This can be seen in Coltrane's solo, which early on echoes the angularity of that chord. “Transition” by contrast is built around a D Phrygian scale. As the quartet explores each tune, these distinctions blur somewhat, but they do suggest that the compositions are different harmonically.
And finally, the structure of the two compositions is also different. 63-0223b features a four-bar phrase, repeated. The first time through, the line moves up to end on an A; the second time through it ends on an F. The theme is repeated after a short improvised section. “Transition” uses a similar four-bar melodic phrase, but it's repeated four times. The first three repetitions end on a concert A below C; the last repetition ends on A but is followed by four measures of additional material to bring the melody to a conclusion.
So, we agree with Nat that these two compositions are closely related, but the differences are sufficient to indicate that they are only close relatives and not one-and-the-same. (7/6/08-daw)
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63-0302 |
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The Discography entry (p. 674) is revised as follows: |
| Partial or complete reissues of this session: |
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Cool Jazz (J) 236 |
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| 63-0429 |
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The Discography entry (p. 682) is revised as follows: |
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CD Dreyfus 3460503688827 (Roy Haynes/A Life Time - The Roy Haynes Story) (3 CD + bonus DVD, incl. interviews and bonus material) <see p. 686>
(8/21/08 WS) |
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| 63-0610. |
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The Discography entry (p. 683) is revised as follows: |
| Session 63-0610f. |
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Delete the title, "I Want To Talk About You", and replace it with the title "You're A Weaver of Dreams".
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| NOTE: The following corrections should be made to the Reference: |
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p. 683: delete "I Want To Talk About You" 63-0610f f., add "You're a Weaver of Dreams"
p. 684: Session Notes delete "I Want To Talk About You" , add "You're a Weaver of Dreams"
p. 816, Song Title Index,"I Want To Talk About You", delete 683, 684
p. 821, Song Title Index, "You're a Weaver of Dreams", add "683, 684"
NOTE: Thanks to Brooklyn-area drummer Steve Jackson, who pointed out this error in an email to us on 2/24/08.
(3/2/08)
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1 |
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The Discography entry (p. 684) is revised as follows: |
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Issue Data 1 (new heading) |
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CD Rare Live Recordings (Eu) RLR 88657 (John Coltrane Trio & Quartet/More Live at the Showboat 1963) (Released April 15, 2010 per website amazon.de)
Session/Issue Notes:
[1] c. Up ‘Gainst the Wall: b-solo edited completely
[2] (audience members talking) not issued
[3] date as “June 24, 1963”
[4] 63-0610f as “I Want To Talk About You” (see correction earlier in this entry)
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| 63-0704 – 63-0706 |
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The Discography entry (p. 684) is revised as follows: |
| Add to session 63-0704 – 63-0706: |
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Issue Data:
1
(new heading and subheading) |
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CD Rare Live Recordings (Eu) RLR 88652 (John Coltrane Quartet/The 1962 Milan Concert) (Released September 25, 2009 per website amazon.de)
Session/Issue Notes:
[1] Timings:
a. Up ‘Gainst the Wall (listed as “Blues”) complete 7.38
b. Impressions inc 8.24, fading out
(includes ending of p-solo and short ts closing theme)
[2] André White listed on dr, date as “between June 25 & July 4, 1963”
<see pp. 662, 670>
(9/3/10 WS) |
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| 63-0707 |
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The Discography entry (p. 686) is revised as follows: |
| add to session 63-0707, Issue Data 3: |
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CD Dreyfus 3460503688827 (Roy Haynes/A Life Time - The Roy Haynes Story) (whether ann and/or applause is included is not known) (3 CD + bonus DVD, incl. interviews and bonus material) <see p. 682>
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| add to session 63-0707, Issue Data 6, CD Verve/Impulse! B0009076-02 (My Favorite Things: Coltrane at Newport): |
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Reissues: CD Verve/Impulse! (Eu) 0602517350540; CD Impulse! (J) UCCI-1014 <see p. 733>
(8/21/08 WS) |
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| 63-0819 – 63-0825 (1) |
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The Discography entry (p. 687) is revised as follows: |
| add to session 63-0819 – 63-0825 (1), Issue Data 1, after title (John Coltrane Quartet/ – Live at the Showboat) (2 CD): |
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(Released April 10, 2006 per website amazon.de)
(9/3/10 WS) |
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| 63-1008 |
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The Discography entry (p. 688) is revised as follows: |
| add to session 63-1008, d. to f.: |
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7 |
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The Discography entry (p. 689) is revised as follows: |
| add to session 63-1108, Issue Data 3: |
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CD Fabulous FABCD 129 (My Favourite Songs)
<thanks to Nat Birchall for the correction> |
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The Discography entry (p. 690) is revised as follows: |
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CD All Blues Records ABR-020 (John Coltrane, Lostrane Birdland); Cool Jazz Cool Jazz 398 (John Coltrane, Lost Birdland Tapes)
NOTE: ABR-020 lists the recording date as October 10, 1963.
[TITLES: "Traneing In", "Mr. P.C.", "Lonnie's Lament". Details pending confirmation]
(Thanks to Willy Renstrom of Stockholm, Sweden, for his assistance 7/15/11).
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| Partial or complete reissues of
this session: |
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CD Impulse! 060251764900
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| 63-1022 – 63-1104 |
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The Discography entry (p. 691) is revised as follows: |
| delete session 63-1022 – 63-1104 (see session 63-1022) |
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[NOTE: “Chasin’ the Trane”] (7/15/11 WS) |
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| 63-1022 |
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The Discography entry (p. 692 - 694) is revised as follows: |
| Session 63-1022. Replace this entry as shown below: |
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JOHN COLTRANE QUARTET: John Coltrane (ts [a.]-[d.], [f.]-[i.]; ss [c.]-[e.], [g.]); McCoy Tyner (p),[f.] on final notes only); Jimmy Garrison (b); Elvin Jones (dr); unknown (ann).
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00:58 |
13 |
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(reh p, b) |
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00:07 |
13 |
| a. |
Traneing In |
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11:43 |
2, 6, 8, 9, 11, 12, 13, 14, 16 |
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Naima |
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06:43 |
3,13 |
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My Favorite Things |
*1 |
13:55 |
13 |
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Mr. P.C. |
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18:32 |
2, 3, 9, 13, 14, 15, 16 |
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The Promise |
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06:55 |
3, 5, 13 |
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Chasin’ the Trane |
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05:29 |
17 |
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Spiritual |
*3 |
12:22 |
2, 4, 7, 8, 11, 13, 14 |
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I Want to Talk About You |
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09:49 |
2, 3, 6, 8,10, 13, 16 |
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Impressions |
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11:35 |
1, 4, 13 |
Track Notes
*1 Coltrane plays both ts (opening notes only, ca. 0:04, cueing the band) and ss.
*2 Coltrane plays both ss (opening theme only) and ts.
*3 Coltrane plays both ts (opening theme, first solo) and ss (second solo, closing theme).
*4 Includes cadenza by Coltrane (ca. 4:35).
Session/Issue Notes
[1] The arrangement of this concert shown above is based on information from a variety of sources, including a nearly complete recording of the concert itself. That recording confirms that "Chasin' the Trane", whose source was previously unknown, is from this concert. Our review also shows that "Traneing In" and "Naima" are continuous, and that "The Promise" through "Impressions" are continuous (with "I Want To Talk About You", not "Impressions", following "Spiritual").
Our placement of "My Favorite Things" following "Naima" cannot be confirmed from the available concert recording, but it conforms to the normal order of performances by the quartet. However, “Mr. P.C.” definitely followed “My Favorite Things.” At the end of “My Favorite Things,” Garrison can be heard playing
some notes on the bass. On the beginning of the original Pablo CD issue of “Mr. P.C.” ( PL PACD 2308-222-2), Garrison can be heard playing these notes, before Coltrane begins (on soprano sax) playing “Mr. P.C.” “Mr. P.C.” was a standard concert closer at this time, and positioning it following "My Favorite Things" also explains why Coltrane begins on soprano saxophone. It also seems likely that there would have been an intermission at this point, before a second set beginning with "The Promise" (a standard set opener around that time).
(Pablo’s later release of this material, Live Trane—The European Tours [ Pab 7 PACD-4433-2], edits out some of the material between the tunes and splices the tunes together, and is therefore not reliable for determining the set order.)
[2] Original live recordings by Norman Granz. Portions of the concert were also broadcast by Swedish radio.
[3] The original issue of the HPLP series has no titles on either sleeve or label. A second pressing of the albums has an advertising flyer on each sleeve.
[4] Title [d.] is complete on issues 3 and 13 (18:26); it is incomplete on issues 2, 9, 14, 15, 16 (around 8:15).
[5] As indicated in Note [1] above, we have now confirmed that 63-1022–63-1104a, "Chasin' the Trane" (sometimes identified as being from session 63-1101) is actually from this concert. As indicated earlier, Session 63-1022–63-1104 has therefore been deleted. Our thanks to Jörgen Adolfsson of Stockholm Sweden for his considerable help in assembling information about this concert.
[6] As noted, the Quartet performed twice on October 22 1963. The music above most probably comes from one of those two performances (not both), but we don’t yet know which performance was recorded. |
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CD Domino Records (Eu) 891205 (2 CD) (John Coltrane/ Complete Live in Stuttgart 1963)
(released October 29, 2010 per website amazon.de)
(location and date listed as “Salle Pleyel, Paris, France, November 1, 1963”)
(LP, WS, CD, YF, DAW 7/15/11) |
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| 63-1102 |
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The Discography entry (p. 696) is revised as follows: |
| title listing session 63-1102 g.: |
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delete 9
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The Discography entry (p. 697) is revised as follows: |
| session 63-1102, Issue Data 9: |
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delete: “9 CD Fabulous 129 (My Favourite Songs) <thanks to Nat Birchall for the correction>
(8/21/08 WS) |
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| 63-1104 |
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The Discography entry (p. 698) is revised as follows: |
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5 |
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CD Domino Records (Eu) 891205 (2 CD) (John Coltrane/Complete Live in Stuttgart 1963)
(released October 29, 2010 per website amazon.de)
[TITLES: "The Promise", "Afro Blue", "I Want to Talk About You", "Impressions", "My Favorite Things", "Everytime We Say Goodbye", "Mr. P.C."]
(7/15/11 WS) |
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| 63-1118 |
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The Discography entry (p. 699) is revised as follows: |
| Partial or complete reissues of
this session: |
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CD Impulse! 060251764900
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| 63-1207 |
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The Discography entry (p. 701) is revised as follows: |
| session 63-1207, Issue Data 1: |
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DVD Eforfilms (Sp) IDVD 2869049 (Trane Tracks - The Legacy of John Coltrane):delete “(prob. [a.], [b.], [c.] inc)”add:“(section “movie” includes[a.] com; film partly overspoken, sound partly used as background of Tyner interview[c.] inc 4:55, film partly overspokensection “song clips” includes[a.] inc 6:21; [b.] com; [c.] inc 13:52, fading out before announcement)”<see pp. 560, 633, 739, 754>
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The Discography entry (p. 702) is revised as follows: |
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DVD Salt Peanuts (Eu) 44607 (John Coltrane/Impressions) <see pp. 633, 739>
(8/21/08 WS) |
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